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Yeti Stereo Microphone: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Multiverse comics podcast. On today's episode, we have all the movies that we love, but nobody else does enjoy. /
It's just, it's nice, the three of us are now back under, Jason has, He's come back from Budapest, as we've referenced all the other times.
You know, you don't think he's working some kind of hostile type thing. He goes out there and pays a bunch of money and kills transients. There was a, I don't remember who wrote it, but there was a hitman in the Marvel universe that Kingpin used, who was very unassuming. little, like an older guy with, I mean, he was balding, he had glasses, kind of remember this.
Yeah. And now Jason has none of those attributes, but, you know, if you looked at the three of us here and said, who's a professional hitman, or who just does it on the side, Jason is not the first. I don't know. That might be, Jason might be. And so that's, you know, [00:01:00] he takes those pills that the agency prescribed him.
He's been reading those books lately. Those super soldier, you know, spy novel crap. I am super into those. Yeah, that's right. Have you seen, Oh, the, the, not at the jackal TV show? No, no, that's on my list. It's a peacock, isn't it? The guy that played the early Harry Potter prequels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, the Danish girl. The guy, the guy who talked to the animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, he's Danish? No, he was in a movie called The Danish Girl. I believe he won an Oscar for it. Oh, did he? Yeah. He's very good in the show. It's not getting great reviews, but I'm finding it just extraordinary. I think it's really good.
Did you ever watch the original? That's where I was gonna go. I think some of these people I've seen the original. Oh. I've seen the original, and then there was like a, I think a Bruce Willis remake? Yeah. I've seen that one. So The original [00:02:00] was pretty good. Yeah. The Bruce Willis one? Meh. Still no, It's still no Hudson Hawk.
Nothing could be. I bought Hudson Hawk. Oh. I bought it on Apple TV. There we go. And That's Christmas. I love that movie. I don't know why. You know what? I love that music. That music is my go to. Like if I'm just floating around the pool and need to let my mind wander, it is definitely Singers and Standards and Frank and Sammy.
I know Richard E. Grant has a very poor, low opinion of that movie, fine, but him and Sandra Bernhardt, they're so awful. They're just so, so awful. I'm just like, this is amazing. I want, I want a movie about them. There's so many spinoffs on that, that they could have had, but of course, nobody said they liked it.
So this episode is [00:03:00] Movies That We Love That Nobody Else Does. Oh, here we go, deep dive. Oh God. Oh my gosh. That's what we're doing right now. Movies That We Love That Nobody Else Does. Because we just talked about this TV show. The, the Jackal. It's getting not great reviews, but I think it's great. And then Hudson Hawk.
Didn't we talk about this? Actually, maybe We've brought up Hudson Hawk before. No, no, no. The, the, the Rachel Green thing. Do we talk about that? I don't know if we Rachel Green, you mean from Friends? Yeah. So there's a, there's an episode of Friends where, I think it's the girls versus the boys. I think it's the episode where they have the quiz.
Oh, where they lose the apartment? Who loses the apartment. Chanandler Bong. Chanandler Bong. That's right. I ought to call my daughters. They know every episode. Okay. So, one of the questions, I think cause Ross is reading out the questions. That's right. And one of the questions, I think, if I'm wording it right, is what is Rachel, what does Rachel Greene say her favorite movie [00:04:00] is?
Dangerous Liaison. But what's her real favorite movie? Weekend at Bernie's.
And I've, I've had this conversation over the years, that's probably why I thought, like, haven't we had this conversation before? So there's, you know, somebody asks you, you know, what's your favorite movie? And you, oh, well, I wanted to be sophisticated. You know, fleeny's eight and a half. Right, but what's your real favorite movie?
And it's that secret guilty pleasure that you're kind of ashamed, almost ashamed. Yeah. And, I, I know mine. Absolutely. Go, without even thinking about it. Alright, we'll go. Joe vs. Volcano. So what's your first one though? I mean, so what's your cover? Being there with Peter Sellers. Okay, and so and then but it's like but if Joe versus the volcano is on I'm totally watching it And my wife's that again my wife hates that movie.
Oh my gosh. Oh, you're watching this again Oh god. No, this is a terrible movie, but I don't know it's There's something about it that I and see I have [00:05:00] like a bucket chums the hell out of me I have a bucket of those though. Not just one like when you say that I think of the burbs. Oh man Yeah, this is Jason's not gonna know this one you might hot stuff where it was 70s and they were cops in a rigged pawn shop.
And it was one of the very first. I know this movie. Yeah, it was one of the first movies that came on cable when we got cable at the house. And made 1979. And I'm going to read the cast. Dom DeLuise. Right. Susan Plojet. Jerry Reed. Ozzie Davis. Carol Arthur. Peter Peter De La Roos. De La Roos, yeah.
Mark Lawrence, Michael De La Roos, and Alfie Wise, Bill McChickinson, and that guy right there. Okay. [00:06:00] Well, but I mean, you, you, you, you, you got me at Dumb Deluise and Jerry Reed. And that, that, that. Susan Plachette. So they're, they're, they're cops. Yeah. And they're, they're running a, a sting operation through a pawn shop.
So those people bringing in stolen merchandise, they're having them tell them everything that they did. And I go, Hey, I was going in the back and get your boat. And they're just. Right. Shuffle them out. And I remember. My dad and I sat and watched this together, laughing, but there were a lot of, you know, being a 70s movie, there's a lot of PG was a lot different back then.
It was very broad. There's a lot of times my dad was like, is your mom coming? What's going on here, you know? But yeah, I'd say Weekend at Bernie's is another one of those ridiculous ones. 1941. I mean, even though it's, I think it's a step above some of these others I'm missing. Cannonball Run. Cannonball Run 2.
What about? Scavenger Hunt. Scavenger Hunt. I freaking love that movie. I love Scavenger Hunt. That was [00:07:00] a great movie. Dirk Benedict and Oh gosh, it's one of those, Everybody's in this one. Yeah. Was there a version of Mad Mad World? Yeah, I think you missed out a couple of Mads there. But oh, yeah, Scavenger Hunt.
I, I remember being Like I get sick a lot when I was a kid. I was in 79 as well. Yeah, and we had HBO. Oh, no, I shouldn't say that. Richard Ben, Benjamin, Richard Benjamin, Chloe Richman. Yes, Vincent Price, Roddy McDowall. Tony Randall, Schwarzenegger, Richard Mulligan, Stephen Furst, Stephanie Farsi. James Coco, Cleavon Little, Ruth Gordon, there's Dirk Benedict, Willie Ames, Scatman Carruthers, Meatloaf, Avery Schreiber, Pat McCormick, Liz Torres, [00:08:00] Hal Landon Jr.
Everybody was in this movie. But no, I can tell you I was sick a lot. Actually, no, I faked it. When I was a kid, because I hated going to school. And my mom was always like, yeah, it's okay. And when we had HBO, this is what I would do. Now, no TV. Wink, wink. Yes, mom. Wink, wink. And this is what I would do. I'd watch Yeah.
HBO because back then it was, you got the little book. It was like a square. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The book. HB book. A little book. Yeah. And And Oh, I love the hbo. Go to the book. You book. Yeah. Okay. Well that one's on today at two o'clock. Okay. Go watch. Do you work toward the end of the month when they'd have previews for the next month?
Yeah. With steal. Oh God. Still our mirror. So we never actually had HBO. My grandmother had HBO. Right. But we never had it. But, sometimes, you can go to the HBO channel, and it wasn't, it wasn't like the fuzz, the fuzzed out thing wasn't It would bend at the top a little bit, but you could hear it. You could still see it.
So, that's how I watch my HBO. Scavenger Hunt's on [00:09:00] Prime Video. Really? Yeah. Oh, now that's worth a revisit. Is it a buy, or is it a? It just says, I said streaming, so. Yeah. But no, I, Man, there was there's a movie that I watched well two actually had come to mind. The first one was, it was a movie about Nostradamus.
Did it have Orson Welles narrating it? Orson Welles does the narration. Yeah, didn't he scare the hell out of you? Holy crap! I mean, you listen to all of that and you're like, well, we're done. I don't know, Yeah, I just Mom! It's like a documentary, but it's It's not, it's just, this is the man who tricked us into thinking Martians landed back in the 40s.
And he, you know, he literally scared us with this. like bringing actors to do reenactments and things like that. But Orson is like, and revelations, you know, and then it kind of goes through the Antichrist. The Antichrist. And you're like, Oh my, no, what? That freaked me out [00:10:00] so badly that I had to watch it again.
And I probably watched that three or four times. Just like and thanks to Orson Welles I can say the word quatrain, which I could do yeah, I could never you know, have you ever heard the the The peas the frozen peas What? This feels familiar. Oh my gosh. So towards the end of his career. Oh, oh, yes. He did those commercials He did commercials for I think it's You Findus?
I think the company was Findus and they did like fish fingers and things like that. Yeah, fish sticks. And, yeah, fish sticks. And then I think Birdseye, Frozen Peas as well I think. And there is a recording where they've got Orsons in the studio and he's supposed to be, you know, You know, in Norway, they rise early in [00:11:00] the morning to Select the most perfect piece to go into the Frozen.
And whatever the writer put in, in terms of some descriptives, Orson was like, Sub that. I'm going to read it my way. And he gets into a snippy exchange with the poor director and the writer. They're just trying to get Voice on tape, so they can be done, and Orson Welles is not having it, and he is just going off.
And there's a, yeah, there's a line, and it's something, he says something like, You know, he's, he's listening to this director trying to state his case, and he says something like, you know, From the depths of your ignorance. I'm just like, oh my god, this is so funny. But then, once you watch that video, then go on YouTube, because you'll probably see it on YouTube, and [00:12:00] then go find Maurice Lamarche, who does, he does it, a version of it, with Brain from Pinky and the Brain doing the same lines.
Oh, it freaking died. It's so funny. But yeah, no, that Nostradamus thing freaked me out. And the other movie was The Big Red One. Samuel Fuller's Big Red One. And, Mark Hamill. I loved that, yeah, well that's what, Luke Skywalker's in a World War II movie, but it's, have you ever seen that? Watch it. It's such a good movie, and Sam Fuller was he served, he was in World War II.
And he was a writer, and so these, this is very autobiographical. And they got to the prophylactic. Oh, there's so many just great moments, but you know, it's funny because take your finger boy. I'm like You've seen Saving Private Ryan, right? [00:13:00] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So first 20 25 minutes that movie is a D Day thing you know and it's just this spectacle and I remember sitting in the movie theater with my dad and You know, there were a couple of moments where we're, because we noticed there's a lot of old guys in the theater with us.
And we're kind of looking around like, this is really freaking intense. I mean, we kind of knew it because the advance word was, oh yeah, Stephen's not holding anything back on this one. But in but the same event is covered in the Big Red One. Obviously, much smaller scale, much less money, much less pyrotechnics, much less everything.
But what Sam Fuller does, there's a dead soldier on the beach, and the waves, the camera keeps cutting back to this dead soldier on the beach, and you can see his watch, and the waves are crashing over him. And throughout the sequence, the water, the ocean water is [00:14:00] getting redder and redder. So, Sam Fuller, and it's every bit as chilling as what Spielberg created with his, We're gonna blow the shit up out of everything!
But it's just such a simple thing, and it's, it just gets me every time. And it's like, you, you can do a lot with a little. I mean, that's not a criticism on Spielberg, because what he gave us was probably wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. The closest any of us would ever get to seeing the carnage on that level guys Oh, oh, that's my arm, you know And you know matey with the thing blows up and he's on fire and all this kind of stuff just horrendous But Sam Fuller he does this thing just simple with the waves and that water is getting redder and redder and you're like, holy crap No, I was turning red.
Oh, yeah Lee Marvin. It's one of his final films And he's way too old for the part that he plays, but it doesn't matter because it's [00:15:00] freaking Lee Marvin. And Mark Hamill and one of the Carradines. And Bobby Oh, I just had it in my tongue. He's in 1941. Bobby DeCoco. He's the I gotta dance! Oh, okay, that guy, yeah.
And Perry The other guy from 1941, he's actually the guy who says, But Dad Pops, he's gotta dance. Those two. Which is weird because you see them in 1941 and they're friends. Why are they gotta dance? What's that from? 1941. We still haven't. Have you seen that? No, we were gonna go. Oh my gosh, what's wrong with us?
He needs to watch that movie. How many times have I said we've got to take a nap? I know! I'll have to watch 1941. And that's the perfect time of the year. We'll go out to TCU. That reminds me of, Hold on, hold on. I just have to say, yes, I'm aware that today is December 7th. December 7th, [00:16:00] yes. And some people Did not appreciate 1941 for its take on the horrendous events of Well now, in its defense, September 7th, 1941, It's from movies that we liked that nobody else did, so it's okay.
Well, also, in our defense of that, remember 1941 wasn't about, The bombing of Pearl Harbor, it was the hysteria, it was the aftermath, the hysteria of, and still to this day, where they don't know what that photo was, and someone says, it was trickery of the light, that they opened up over L. A., and so, yes. No, we have, we really, oh gosh, it's so good, and it's such, it's so messy, but it's perfect.
Brilliant. The right, the right, all of our months have been kind of tied up. Maybe we need the, the three of us need the break to go to the university and sit. Absolutely. I would be, I would be on board. I'll be on board. I'm totally on board for that. I don't know what I can't, but I would do it [00:17:00] if I could.
Oh, it's so good. Show them a good time. And that's the version you've got. You've got to play the special version. There's a special version. There's a theatrical, because the, the, And I think we did this on another podcast, so kids, forgive me if I'm touching on something again, but Spielberg was very, he wanted to do a kind of a comedy, but he wanted to tackle this.
And, you know, he originally wanted John Wayne in it to play. Did he do a Spielberg movie? Yes, it was a Spielberg movie. Oh, yeah. Yes. And it's got the Spielberg look and, you know, he wanted to work with John Belushi and John Candy and all these things. And the last time we talked about this, It was when I told you that Allie didn't like it because when Treat Williams kept, kept hitting on Wendy Jo Spover.
Yeah, when he kept hitting on her and she kept telling him no and he wouldn't disengage. I don't know. Wendy Jo Spover is the girl who This chasing him. Who chasing him. [00:18:00] Sorry girl. The girl from age is enough, right? You got egg on my uniform. Yeah. And, and she was like, well that's awful. The, that's awfully inappropriate and rapey.
'cause she keeps telling him no. And I was, and I'm like, this, you're not wrong. But yet it's not . What I know is like, what are you supposed to say in the situation? I'll lighten up . Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're, you're not wrong. And Steven just got cancelled. But here's why it's funny, you know, or the race riot.
There's a lot of things said there, it's like, you couldn't make that today. But here's why, it's like trying to explain Blazing Saddle. Oh my gosh, yes. That's right. Yeah, you can't, I mean, there's no Did you ever see a movie Matthew McConaughey did called, Matthew McConaughey, Gary Oldman, the girl that's in Underworld, what's her name?
Kate Beckinsale. Kate Beckinsale. It's called Tiptoes. No, I'm not familiar with this. Oh my gosh, do yourself a favor and just watch the trailer at least. It is [00:19:00] so great. Oh man, it's Matthew McConaughey and Oldman? Jeez, holy shit. The trailer, it's like Gary Oldman in the role of a lifetime is what the trailer says.
So what happens is I know, that's a stretch. It's Patricia Arquette? It's, so, Matthew McConaughey, it's Matthew McConaughey. And his girlfriend are getting serious and getting engaged and all of those things. And she finally goes to meet his family. And everyone else in his family is a little person.
Like, literally everybody else is a dwarf and the runoff, the, so she's like, wait, so you're, he goes, yes, I'm, I'm the biggie. It's this whole shtick that goes the whole time and it's so funny, but you could not make the movie today, but it's hilarious. That's the thing we talked about, little people under the rainbow, Chevy Chase and Carrie Fisher.
About the true [00:20:00] story about what the Lilliputians, no not Lilliputians, Munchkins did behind the scenes when they're making Wizard of Oz, oh, Billy Barney, oh, cause I remember what sold me on the movie is when they were playing ball, they're up on this like the 30th floor of this building, they're playing ball with this Scotty dog, and they're like, Leave me alone.
Leave me alone. They bounce the ball. And the dog jumps off the balcony catches the ball goes over the balcony but it squeaks all the way down and then it just stopped. You know, I'm not down for animal cruelty. Couldn't make it today kids but boy that la You can still make that. Well, uhhh. He's still a sun dog.
Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's fine. Boy, this is really There's Well, I mean, look, you, it's one of the, it's, so you have to present it as a, oh yeah, things are a lot better now today, boys and girls, we're in a much more enlightened time, but [00:21:00] privately in our heads, we're thinking about those movies that were like, You'd never get that made today.
Yeah, and we're all worse off for it And the fact I can I could probably quote blazing saddles word for word because I've seen it in history of the world part one I've seen it so many times. Yes, it would get me fired from like I said I can't remember the bad stuff in history of the world part one blazing saddles.
I totally remember the bad stuff Well, there was there was a lot of good to be the king. Yeah a lot of a lot a lot of you know That's a lot of exploiting. Yeah, there's a lot of cleavage a lot of I mean, it's it's You could make, you could make History of the World Part One, but there's just some things, some other racial things, a lot of, a lot of, you know, Mel, Mel, Mel Gibson, you know, a lot of, a lot of Oh yeah, but that's Not Mel Gibson, Mel Brooks.
Mel Brooks, yeah, But Mel Gibson made the same comment sometimes, got in trouble, so Different tone, different way Different tone! You never want to mistake Mel Brooks for Mel Gibson. I [00:22:00] totally watched that movie. Yes. Mel Gibson plays Melbrook Brooks in the Melbrook story. I, man, that's, let's go, let's do it.
There was talk of a history of the world, part two. They made it, they made it. They made it. It, it's on Hulu and it is not Yeah, a icon. It, it, didn't it Mel? Yeah. God bless him. Because it's another one of those He can't be funny anymore? No, he can be funny, but No, he just can't be funny the way that he used to be funny.
There's a group of movies made from about 1976 to about 1988. I would back it, keep the span of years, but back it up about 10 years. Well, like, I think, I don't even think you could make Secret of Success anymore, not because of the content, like, offending people, but I don't think people got, you know, that, that kind of business.
Oh, so I was thinking about Mel Brooks. I was just thinking about Well, I'm talking about, there's a whole group of I love Secret of My Success. I loved it too, but I think like today it would hit [00:23:00] flat for some people. It would have to be a tech giant, you'd have to check I think it would, well, yeah You couldn't be a Coke, you couldn't be a Coke snorting, um You know, intern, you know, being chased by your boss's wife.
Well, you know what's funny is what's acceptable now versus then. So there are some things you can do now that you couldn't do then. Oh yeah, there's Like the, like, way more sexually explicit stuff. There's way more, like, like in rated R movies. Like, think about, like, you, nobody was making, would make seven in the 70s or the 80s.
I you know, I don't know that I agree. I think you could get it, but it wouldn't be It wouldn't be like that. It wouldn't be graphic. It wouldn't be Yeah, but socially, like, people would be like, Oh, that's the worst thing that society's downfall. You probably would have gotten the happy ending. Yeah. Yeah.
There'd been a red, there'd been a different resolute, but, well, they shot a happy ending. Yeah, I I saw [00:24:00] that on the, yeah, it wasn't like on the first deleted, it was like, no, a decade later. No, they, the studio was like, you have got to give us an out on, no, I'm saying they just didn't show it to us, so it was, it wasn't like, it wasn't like they had no intention of using it, but they, I remember.
7 had deleted scenes on the first DVD. Yes. It wasn't a part of it. It was like the fourth or fifth, it was like a decade later that they finally, they finally showed it. Well, and like the amount of, the amount of nudity and graphic stuff and TV and stuff now, even I mean, HBO is HBO, but like, it got, it's pretty strong now.
You know, Caddyshack, Caddyshack was shocking in the 70s with the nudity now and that's FX after 8 o'clock. I mean, if you're going to show Caddyshack today, I don't know if they would edit a whole lot of it. So, yeah. So that stuff's all okay, but you can't say, like, this disenfranchised people group might get upset about X, Y, and Z now, so you can't say those things.
It's, you know, it's how you, [00:25:00] it's kind of how you, I mean, I hate to say it's how you approach it because that's with anything, but there is just a group of comedies and things that were made, like I said, during that time block that you absolutely could not make now because it. I don't, I don't know, I'm not saying it's become more, more or less acceptable.
Some of the things that people just can't take a joke anymore? No. Like comedy, like. I'm, well, I'm going to say, you know. No, they can't. Yeah. I'll answer that question for you. I think people can't take a joke anymore. Part of it, but like, also there, there are certain things that, like, might offend you that wouldn't offend me.
But I don't think I have the right to tell you what should or shouldn't offend you. I'll explain why it doesn't offend me. There, there was just actually part of it, my sister and I were chatting about this one time. In the 70s, early 80s, [00:26:00] my dad had to sneak me into an R movie under his coat. Right. You know, I saw mountain, he wanted me to see Mountain Men, but we couldn't get into a real theater, so he took me to a drive in.
See Brian Keith's naked ass. Nice. And what a naked ass it was. Here's the thing is, I don't remember anything about Brian Keith's? Brian Keith's. What a Keithster on that one. Yeah, but I don't remember anything about the movie other than his naked ass. Because I think I fell asleep. It just wasn't that interesting to me.
Right. I think someone got scalped, if I remember right, or something. Hmm. But, but now, you know, you, you're in an R. Ray movie. 50 percent might be 13 year olds with no adult supervision. And I'm not sitting there trying to say, police your kids better. But there's, there's just this desensitizing or oversensitive.
I'm not going to drill down into that. No, cause we, we could be here all night. We would be here. Oh boy. We'd be seeing in the door. Yeah. But I think that [00:27:00] there are components that I think we all recognize, even if we don't necessarily have names for them. You know, Things like you could take chances with films.
I think the seventies, this why the seventies is such an amazing decade, especially for film, because you've got, you've got the birth of the American Independence Cinema. Really found its, you know, foothold. Ca ca, man, I could do a whole bloody podcast about praying at the altar of junk cave. I love junk caves.
But you, you could make films and then they would play in theatres and nobody would know anything about them and then word of mouth would get around. Oh, you've got to go and see that. So the reputations of films would kind of build up organically. I think one of the issues we have now [00:28:00] is movie comes out.
And the whole damn thing is spoiled in the first 24 hours. Yeah. You've got to go and see it. Yeah. So The internet, dammit. Studios, I think, are very, very afraid. Don't put a movie out that's going to piss or upset people. Well, I'll tell you what Because we have no time for recovery on this. Well, here's the other thing.
I think the bar is so high now. For what people are going to watch in a theater versus what they wait to stream at their house that bar is Enormous. Yeah. Oh, yeah spectacle cinema has it basically rules the day now Yeah, like yeah, we're talking about venom earlier. Yeah, right Chances are, if we didn't have the streaming platforms we have today, you wouldn't have gone to see Venom.
Oh, sure. You wouldn't have waited for the DVD. No, not at all. Not for the DVD. You would wait, you would but now that it's going to stream on a service that you already have, you're already paying your, your your nut to Disney already. Sure. So, you're going to go and watch, you're going to wait to watch [00:29:00] Venom for when, when it comes out.
And I, I get it. I mean, And what I'll say is, you're better off for the first three quarters of that movie and then there's a good payoff at the end. First three quarters were tough. But that's, that's, that's kind of my problem is that there's a lot of movies like that where the expectation is, oh no, the payoff is going to be fantastic, just kind of sit through all this, you know, bumf.
But I, that one was, it was schlocky, it was, it was badly done. But those Venom movies are basically It's like no one, no one evolved whatsoever from the, the 90s Spider Man movies. Like the look is all the same as the 90s Spider Man movies to me. It's something that has always kind of troubled me because I really like Tom Hardy.
I think he, he, he's great. He's an amazing actor. There's some performances I've seen where I'm just like, oh my gosh. Did you watch him in Peaky Blinders? I still haven't seen that. Oh, he's such [00:30:00] a great character in Peaky Blinders. I know, I need to watch that. It's on my to do list. Peaky, what was the thing where he played the twin mobsters?
Yeah, it's, it's, I can't remember the name of the movie, but it's about the Kray twins. Yes. And every kid who grew up in England, especially near London, in the 70s, Which I did, you know all about the Kray twins because that was always the thing there was always be some little shit at school Who'd be like, oh, yeah, my uncle used to do jobs for the Kray twins legend legend where it's like No, he didn't but that there you go.
He was amazing at that one. Yes, he was I mean he that that was a stunning performance and the fact that he did it himself because the last time there was a movie about the Kray twins It's called The Krays and the, the brothers were played by, I can't remember their names, but they're two guys from the 80s pop group Spandau Ballet because they're, they're twins.
So they, you know, [00:31:00] and they didn't do a bad job. They really didn't. But Hardy, it's in another I think he's a great, I think I've seen him be a great actor, an actor that I will watch him in just about anything. I think he is worse at Venom than anything else I've ever seen him do. Yeah, I'd agree with that actually.
Yeah, I would. Going to that, it's another one of those where Sony is trying to make Spider Man money. Yeah. And they're contractually in a way where they can't make solo Spider Man movies on their own because of Marvel. Right. So, they cranked these properties out, out of the, you know, you think about it so far, Venom, Madam Web, Mobius, and now Craven, which is, and you know, that's another interesting one where, I don't really have a desire to go see it, but it looks interesting.
The preview looks pretty good. Like, I watched that. And I've enjoyed, [00:32:00] I mean, I've enjoyed the Venom movies for what they were, but it is Sony's attempt to hang on to the rights. Yes, of course. It's a money grab. That's right. That Marvel either needs to, I mean, I say this like it's just easy to do this, Marvel's bought out, Open Marvel's bought every other property.
It took them time. You know, they, they, they broke Fox to get the X Men and Fantastic Four back. I don't know why they haven't crippled Universal yet. They can't seem to get anything off the ground so they can get the solo rights back to do a Hulk movie. And then all that's left is Sony. There's nothing, but Sony keeps going, Oh, we got to make something every.
Every couple of years. Yeah. I, I mean, I had high hopes for this Venom movie. I haven't seen it. I, I mean, I kind of, I even enjoyed, you know, old Woody Harrelson is carnage. It wasn't perfect, but since I knew it wasn't going to get perfect. Out of Sony? Right. Listen, sometimes I just want to go to the movies.
Yeah. I like to just go to the movies. Yeah. Well, and that's what Venom was for [00:33:00] me. Right. I just, there's not a lot out that's good. And that's, look, and that's, that's fine, but this is, this is what I was gonna. Good place. No, it's like, look, this is his thing. This is, this is where my brain goes for this. Okay.
So there was a time 33 years ago. Where, when I first moved back to the States, so this is 91, right, and I had a night time job at a local video rental shop, okay, so my days were free, and within a 20 minute walk from my house, because I wasn't driving, there was a shopping mall, Pompano Square Mall, and right next to it was a movie theatre that had like 6 or 7 screens.
And I didn't know anybody, didn't have any friends. So my first few months living in the States, cause I got a job pretty quick. Thanks to my dad, was I get up in the morning, [00:34:00] you know, fart ass around the house for a little bit, walk over to the mall. They had this muffins. There was a, In the food court, they just, all they did was muffins.
It was like 50 different flavors of muffins and they were all amazing. So I buy a couple of those, walk over to the movie theater and I'll just see whatever is playing. Like it just didn't, it didn't matter. Just like, Oh, well, I've seen that one. So I saw that one yesterday. I would go like three times a week.
Oh, okay. What's that? Toy soldiers. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what that's all about. You know? Yeah. And it was fantastic, because you're paying a couple of bucks, I'd sneak my muffins in, but I'd always buy a drink. Because I'm not going to completely shaft the concessions. Well, that's how movie theatres make money.
They don't make money off of tickets, the studios get that. They make their money off of concessions, so you've got to toss them a frickin bone. And I'd watch a movie, and it was great, and if the movie was good, yay! [00:35:00] And if the movie sucked That's fine. I watched that movie and that was okay. Man, to do that today, between price tickets and popcorn, I mean, it's just, it's crippling.
I think it's so expensive. It's prohibitively expensive. So I do the movie club over at Cinemark, and you get the one ticket a month or something like that, whatever it is. Then 20 percent off of concessions. Right. So I can, I can go to a movie for 16 including popcorn and a drink. Oh, okay. That feels pretty good.
Like that one is good. But the ones where you like reserve the thing and you order food while you're there. Oh yeah. Like what used to be the Alamo movie Draft House. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. That [00:36:00] place, those guys don't know what they're doing. They're not Alamo. They've got a garbage set up for like how you get food and stuff.
They give you a little coaster like that buzzes when your food's ready. You have to leave your movie and go get your stuff and then come back. It makes no sense. I mean, they just don't understand what a customer is looking for. And they're still charging a price, the price that Alamo charged. Right.
That's not what I'm paying for when I'm paying that much money. I'm paying for service when I pay for that much. I've been to that theater twice and that's it. Cause I was like, Why am I picking up my own food? It's on the corner by my house. It is walking distance. I can get on my roof and throw a rock and hit it.
So I know we, you know, we're not that far away. Yeah, it is right there. And I'm, yeah. Not, not my bag. But yeah. So this summer, or this, this Christmas, there's a, There's two movies that I kind of want to see. Crave and I actually, I saw the preview and I was like, alright. Are you talking about the 8 minute preview that they put on YouTube the other day?
They just dropped [00:37:00] it. I haven't seen that. I saw the one that was before. So they've dropped the first 8 minutes of the movie on YouTube. You can go and watch it. I don't want to see that. And the reason Why I read somewhere is because it's tracking like the opening weekend. They're tracking it to like 17 or 18 million like they're already expecting.
This thing is going to be a massive flop, which isn't fair because the damn thing hasn't come out yet. It could be amazing, but it looks good to me. It looks interesting. And you know, once again, for you, if it looks interesting, go see it. I can't even if I'm going to make any money it and we've grant. This is now devolved from the, what's the shameful movement?
Yeah, we watch. But we're going to go back to, you know, we're going to go back and rework it. We're about to get to one that I'm embarrassed to say I liked. Madame Web. Kind of liked it. Ah, jeez. I didn't hate it. I haven't seen it, so I can't judge. I saw it. Here's the thing. I can judge. Just, just, like, separate yourself from all comic knowledge of all [00:38:00] things, right?
Just go into it, like, this is an interesting sci fi movie about Hang on. Okay. See now I, I know what you're getting at, but why would I do that? That's like, Oh, you know, I really like that book that what was the book? Life of Pi or whatever it was with the boy and the tiger. Yeah. Yeah. I love that book.
Can we go see the movie? Eh, it's not a tiger anymore. Eh, it's not on a boat and it's, you know, it's an eight foot tall artichoke. I get what Jason is saying. And Yeah, they could call it anything else other than a Spider Man movie, but it would be like showing up to see a Batman movie with a sparkly vampire.
No, no, I digress. But shockingly good. Batman. Oh yeah. Oh my God. That's streaming at your house. I know. I know it is. I, you know, I'm going to give you some advice about it. Go on. Watch the [00:39:00] penguin first. The main series. Really? Yes. and then go watch the Batman movie. Is it like a prequel? No, it's not.
The, the, the events are reversed, but the things that I couldn't tolerate in the Batman movie, now that I had a slow burn through Penguin, it was better. It, it ended up grabbing me more because we, Cliff is a, my, my buddy Cliff is a huge Batman fan, and he watched it. Because we all went and saw it when it first came out.
We all kind of were like, ha, it's still not Michael Keaton, here you go. And, and granted, and granted in, in the Penguin, You know, in the Penguin miniseries, they're acknowledging the Riddler and some things the Riddler did. But if you watch Colin Farrell as the Penguin, and you get a feel for Gotham the way Matt Reeves has set it up, and then you go watch Batman again, those things that irked you now all of a sudden aren't quite as I'm not saying it irked [00:40:00] you personally, Jason, but just there's some things that are like, I appreciate this more now.
I didn't think I was going to like the penguin. I don't know if I can appreciate that Batman is so freaking noisy. Like he's the worst sneaky Batman ever. Well, this, this one, it's still, it's been clunky boots. And it really, it really highlighted him being, I mean, you know, being a detective, not a ninja, but it's still not my favorite.
But go, I cut you off as you were, I have no idea what I was supposed to say. So here's my, here's the Madame Web thing. Okay, yes, that's right. So here's where I'm coming from. Madame Web is a, not even like a tier one villain for Spidey. Like, she's like a She's not a villain. She's not a villain. She's like a, she's sort of like a blind woman.
She was an oracle. Yeah, but not like a It was Ezekiel that was But she's not like a It's funny how that all worked out in the end. Anyway, sorry. She's [00:41:00] not a character that I would build a story around. Yeah, no. So I think it's dumb to do it in the first place. But if you're gonna do one, that one was fine.
But, and it wasn't, it was a good story. I liked, it wasn't a good story. It was a fun, it was a fun romp. Yeah. I thought. Once again, I would like to. I was fine with it. I would like to sit in these Sony meetings, when, so once again, I don't think I'm smart enough. Sorry, did you just say Sidney Sweeney? No, Sony, but yeah.
How do they make these decisions? How do you screw that up? Well, it's, it's another one of these well, we gotta make, we gotta make a movie. We gotta make a movie. Cool. We still have the rights to William Dafoe and Green Goblin, right? Yeah, we do. We can do that one solo. Cool, cool. The guy that did the lizard?
Yeah, we can do that. But you know what I was thinking? What? How about this? How about this spider character, spider totem, who's not a spider man? But we can kind of make him look like it, just for a second. And then we'll do flashbacks with Spider woman, who you're not gonna get to see. And the other [00:42:00] couple, who you're not gonna get to see.
And we're gonna start Mad and Wet. And you know what? Haven't you always wanted to know? What was Ben Parker doing when he was 30? Oh! Gosh, it's a dream come true. Yeah. Bye. That kind of decision making. Can we get Matt Smith to play a vampire? Yeah, let's get him out. Let's get over there. Let's get Dr. Who to play a vampire too, in this other film we're talking about.
And let's get Jared Leto. Hey, do you think we could trouble? Oh, he was fine on Suicide Squad. I'm sure all those stories were overblown. You know, that's, we can get the Joker over here. Let's put Jared Leto. But when you're trying to, but when you're trying to put together, because once again, I like him too, but it didn't make any money.
No, no. Well, I'll tell you what they did. Here's what happened for real in that meeting. Is they were like, okay, which of these Spidey characters could I have a female lead in? They wanted a female lead somewhere because they [00:43:00] felt like they were only using male leads for these and that's not the way to go.
They should have done a Spider Gwen movie. If they had done a Spider Gwen movie. Or a Black Cat. Okay. Alright, boys, here, okay, sorry, I've got to weigh in, if you're gonna, you're right, I think you're right, I think the bean counters and the big suits at Sony were like, okay, we can't lose the rights, we can't lose the rights, that's point number one, point number two, we've already gotten our asses handed to us a couple of times here with Morbius and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Chicks in superhero costumes. Sexy chicks in superhero costumes. We could probably sell the hell out of that. Okay. Who what characters do we have? Well, we've got this, you know, Jessica Drew. Spiderwoman. I mean, there you go. We've got, you know, Gwen Stacy from another universe as Spider Gwen. [00:44:00] Oh yeah, okay.
Oh, that's really cool. Hey, Let's not go with any of that. Let's just pick Madam Web, the old lady on life support who's blind. Maybe we could tool that in an edgy, kind of 70s sort of pastiche. You know, like that guy just did with Joaquin Phoenix with the Joker. Only not that severe. Here's the thing.
I've wondered, and I'll never get an answer to this, Why that? Why they didn't do Jessica Drew? Because if you're going to do a frickin Chicks and Spider Man mash up, Use frickin Spider Woman! Well, here's the thing, Jessica Drew has a huge, cult following. People know who that is! We had the cartoon! We had the cartoon growing up, right?
You're saying what they could have done, and then what they did do is You know, they did the I forget her name, she came from Marvel's Secret Wars. You're Carpenter? Carpenter, yeah. And then they did the others, but you only got them for like 13 seconds. Yes, yeah, and [00:45:00] that was lame. So all of that just, and it's not that Sony doesn't know how to make a movie.
Sony knows how to make movies. I'm starting to wonder. I'm starting to wonder. But if I'm just trying to, it's the same thing, which I wish we had all the time in the world to sit down and watch like the original Fantastic Four, the documentary about that, about Roger Corman's version, what those guys did, what Stan Lee helped them do to hang onto the rights.
Sure, sure. This is the same ploy. They lucked out with Venom. They lucked out with Venom. It made more than the other ones. No, it did. And that one, you know, that one they seemed to kind of try. And then, and I don't remember which side of Venom Where was Civil War? Where we got to see Tom Holland, was it before Venom?
It was before this Venom. It was before Venom 3, after Venom. No, I'm talking about the very first Venom. Oh, it was way after. We get Venom before Tom [00:46:00] Holland's Spider Man. No. Let me, let me look it up, because, because. I don't know. There, there, there was a theory one time about how. This one was right after the snap.
Civil War. Marvel Civil War came out in 2016. Right. So Venom.
I just re-watched all, all the first two Vem. Okay. The first Venom film came out in 2018, so, so it was after, oh, okay. 2018. So if we had time off, 'cause there was a, there was a discussion 0.1 time of, oh, then Sony saw how much Spider-Man. They stopped caring and maybe Venom was first where they put their effort in.
This disproves that because it's after, two years after, because then you've got Endgame and all that already going on, but there still to me feels like, and maybe we're the only three that care. If I'm, if, if I'm the, if I, if I'm the bastard child of Marvel Studios and I've got rights to these, I know I'm not going to beat Endgame money, but I'm going to beat Eternals.
[00:47:00] It's not hard for me to beat Eternals. It is not gonna be hard for me to beat second Black Panther money, so I'm gonna put Well, they did good in second Black Panther. Did they go Black Panther one did really real, I mean, black Panther one did really well. It did Black Panther two did less, but it's like in that mid-tier
I know I'm not gonna beat Marvel and. There may be some Sony guy that's like, well every time we launch one of our Sony movies, we have to put the Marvel title first, so maybe the general public doesn't know it's not a Sony movie. I think they're banking on that. Sure. And, and so, you know, this looks like Marvel fail with Mobius and all of that.
There's great spider related material all over the place. Spider Verse. Daryl, both those. Maybe. Oh, actually, I gotta say, I showed my youngest across the Spider Verse last weekend. And we get to the end, and I was like, so what'd you think?
And she goes, yeah, it was [00:48:00] okay. And I was like, just a, really? Just a, you loved the first one? And she goes, yeah. I didn't care for that ending. And I was like, you were the first person I thought of, like, Really? You too, huh? I just, I just Well, if you don't know I didn't care for that ending. I remember Over two hours worth of cartooning.
podcast podcast on this. For God's sake. But I wanted to share that, because I was like, Wow, you too, huh? And now it sounds like there's a better average chance that we might not live long enough to see that third part. I know, I know, right? What's this? What's going on? They push it back to, like, two. 2028, 2029.
Oh, it's better than that. Oh, is it? It's better than that. So, it was supposed to come out this past summer. This past spring, I think, originally. And, they, they delayed, they delayed, they delayed. And now, Sony has said, it's coming out 2027. They told them to scrap everything they've been doing. 2027. Start [00:49:00] again, because what they've seen, they do not like.
It's part two of a story. Well, part three total, yes. Well, but part Did you not read the whole script? No, no, it's just a quality concern, whatever it is. And some of these kids voices are going to change. I mean, am I going to hear, you know, is Miles going to be, Hi, how are you doing? What the hell? What's up?
Yeah, what's up, dude? What's going on, man? You know what, they're better off not doing it right now, because in the comics, they made bad decisions. Freakin miles of vampire and that just pisses me off, too. It's not gonna be, they're gonna fix it. Yeah, but they said he's gonna be a vampire for a long while.
Well, they have to say that. Scott Snyder is saying that he's got, you know, absolute Batman written out for five years. Scott Snyder doesn't have five years worth of absolute Batman ready to go. DC wouldn't let him do that. I remember when they killed Captain America in that Civil War thing, and there was a thing about Joe Simon.
It was like, oh, poor Joe Simon, you know, he, he died and, you know, he never got to see what they did to Cap. I mean, that's just [00:50:00] terrible. Maybe it was the Secret Empire. Anyway, something horrible happened to Cap. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds great and everything, but come on, who believes that this stuff's gonna go on forever?
Come on! Well, the Secret Empire stuff, I stopped reading. Like There's a few things that have made me stop reading Captain America. The Secret Empire was one of them. I was like, done. I guess I'm just too jaded. And when I have both of y'all here, because these I stopped reading it because Cap, I mean, Cap started eating babies or something.
Let's steer back, we'll come back to this. Let's steer back to our Let's steer back to the movie. We're going back to the movie. That was the 70's Cap that they did on the motorcycle. Totally. Red Brown. I totally watched that. All right, how about more recent movies that they're embarrassed that you're you're like, ah, I liked it but nobody else did See, I don't watch a lot.
I'd love to play that game. She's going 90s [00:51:00] Yeah, cuz like like recently now kind of like what we've talked about here. I'm very Picky about what I go see the one that the last one I went saw Then I don't, I, I, I want to murder everybody that made it is the dead don't die. It was this, it was this artsy film had Bill Murray in it.
I was going to say the Jim Jarmusch thing. Oh my God. You didn't like that? Oh, that. I haven't seen it. I, that, that was the biggest waste of time. Well, speaking of Bill Murray and dead don't die movies, Zombieland. See that, you'd expect that to be silly. Yeah, it was greatness. It's one of my favorite movies.
Bill Murray, Adam Driver, Tilda Danny Glover, they were all in this. But yeah, no, Zombieland, that's where I fell in love with Emma Stone. Because I'd seen her in Easy A, but she had red hair, but then I saw black haired [00:52:00] Emma, and I'm like, oh, you look dangerous. You look like you could ruin my credit rating.
So I think, I think you know, that's a, that's a woman for me right there. That's a, You'll take me from 800 to 500 in about six, six weeks. That's great. The fact that they started That's how you judge it. Steady. Steady. Steady, man. Steady. That's how fast you can ruin my credit rating. That's right. I mean, it started out in Texas, you know.
That worked out for me. Oh, oh boy you know, what's the kid's, the, the, the Oh, yeah. He's in Garland or something in Zombie Land where he's like, cardio, and he's running his Yeah, he was in Dallas or in Texas. I was like, Hey, that's funny. He's Lex Luthor. Yeah. Jesse Eisenberg. Jesse Eisenberg. That's a good movie.
So, One, I think it's super cheesy. I'm a little embarrassed that I like it so much. When it came out in theater, I saw Independence Day at least five times in the theater. I love that movie. Oh god, I could, I used to be able to recite Bill Pullman's presidential speech like it was my own. I'm [00:53:00] back! That part just, I, but that is such a good example of the popcorn spectacle.
If you, I saw that at the movie theater and was just like, oh my god. This is freaking amazing. What I'm embarrassed I saw was the second one. So I've re watched it recently. I re watched both on Independence Day. Yeah, you like Madame Web. Yeah, it's true. What I want is just the 13 seconds. That's kind of what I want to see.
I just, I mean, it's lecherous. I know it's lecherous. But it's like women just over and over just wait, what's, what's about Madam Webb, just the 30 seconds when the chicks are in there, it's so bad. I'm so sorry. And I, you know, my daughters are going to be like, really dad and we're like, yeah,
I was talking to I was looking to a friend of mine one that actually knows one of the guys who work with, but, but we're all, [00:54:00] you know, we're like family there and we were talking about. Why it is that movies made based on video games generally just suck. And I, and I said, well, I said, you know, first and foremost, I said, I think the problem is, is that when you're playing a video game, it's, it's movement.
You're moving, you're doing stuff, you're moving, you're playing a game. To make a movie like that, you're gonna give people, you know, Seizures or something because it's it would be too much so You put in dialogue and drama and all this kind of stuff And I said it's like the Tomb Raider movie with Angelina Jolie.
I Don't remember the game having quite so much talking That's the movie did But in full confession, I remember seeing that with my wife, when we went to see Tomb Raider, because I really wanted to see the movie. Of course you did. We went to see Tomb [00:55:00] Raider, and I'm like, yeah, I love that video game, we'll go see the movie, fun.
Indiana Jones, kind of, you love Indiana Jones. Oh, fine, okay, so we're watching this. And then there's that scene, kind of towards the end, where Angelina Jolie is running, and I think, This could be a Mandela effect again, but I believe the camera maybe slows down a little bit like there's a little bit of slow mo she's running out of the cave and Every part of her is moving with her with her She's trying to get away and my wife leans over and she goes Yeah, now I know why we're watching this.
It's like, I had no idea. I hadn't seen this yet, I don't know. This objectification of women will not stand. Can we rewind that bit? My wife was talking to me, I missed, you know. But going back, you know, Independence Day. Independence Day, yes. That was, I mean. That was a lot of fun. It was great. We went, it was out on the 4th of July.
I mean, we stood out and it was, it was, There's nothing [00:56:00] embarrassing about that. I dug that movie. We had a lot of fun, but it is that kind of film that you see in the movie theater. Again, we're on the cusp of everything being ruined for us constantly because of the internet. So it's like, Independence Day, you see the ad, oh my god, they blew up the White House.
Oh, I gotta go see that. Happens in the first five minutes. I know, I know. Yeah, but no, I'm talking about the trailer, like, oh, that's gonna be explosions and spaceships and aliens and Will Smith, let's go. But then I remember watching it when it came out on home video on videotape on a very small TV screen And it's like yeah, this just doesn't work at all.
You you need that big You know, it's kind of like um, I tell you and it's now this is an artsy example, but the point is still the same. I saw Oliver Stone's The Doors You know the biopic Jim Morrison biopic he did Yeah, so that movie theater and was like, Oh my God, this is amazing. [00:57:00] And then however many months later, it came out on videotape and I I was dating a girl at the time, and I'm like, you've got, this movie is just a mix.
I was a big Oliver Stone fan then. Put it in, and I'm like, this movie sucks. This movie sucks. Thirty one flavors of suck. Because it's, it, it's something completely different when you're watching it on this little You need to be immersed by it? Kind of, yeah. And in the case of the doors, you needed a better sound system.
Yeah, of course, yeah. Because you're talking about a 32 inch CRT TV. Yeah. With, you know, maybe you had surround sound, maybe not. And, like, my dad, because I saw it with my dad. And he actually enjoyed it. And I'm sitting there like, Oh my gosh, my dad is just way too conservative and all American and he was like, no, I thought that was about Kilmer.
He played, he plays Jim Morrison and he [00:58:00] does an amazing job in it, but it's very counterculture. I mean, this is, you know, my, put it this way. My dad, when he was young, he was not listening to the doors. He would be. That is not, no, no, he would be listening to Buddy Holly or, oh come on, Johnny Horton, Johnny Horton, yeah.
Well I ran through the browns, and I ran through the reds, and I ran through the blues, and I ran through the reds. Wow, so I've got to, anyway, so, back to the fun. I've got this thing now. Ed, have you used any of the VR headsets and watched a movie? No. Like the MetaQuest or any of those? Don't, they kind of make me feel ill.
Okay. The I, this is one of those things I'm embarrassed that I bought. I've talked about a couple of those today, but I bought the Apple Vision Pro. Mm hmm. That, that VR thing. And watching a movie on that [00:59:00] thing? It, because it's it's capable of 8K, 180 degree view, so it's, it's like having an, an IMAX that's like everywhere, that's what it's capable of doing, but just watching a normal movie or TV show or whatever, you get like a full cinema effect, but you can be wherever you want.
You can be in a cinema or you can be like sitting on tattooing in a, in a speeder. Or you can be in like the, but you're, it's like you're at a drive in sitting on the speeder. So all the Star Wars stuff I watch, I'm sitting in a speeder on Tatooine. But you've got this full massive screen.
You're fully immersed. The sound is all just there. It's so great. It's such a great way. So you don't have to be in the theater to be fully immersed. Okay. Jason, my friend, here it goes. No, no, no. Here it comes. Are you telling me? that a device has been created that I can [01:00:00] put on and replicate the experience of going into a movie theater and watching a movie in a movie theater from home, but not have to suffer people talking on their phones and all that rubbish.
Like I could just enjoy The, the, the, the sensory effect that you get. The fully encompassed sensory effect, yes, that exists. Oh, I might have to invest in this. You'll have to, you'll have to try mine out. You'll have to try mine out and see. Yes, please. Because the, the, the, there's not much out for it yet, but the the, Yeah.
It's shocking. Like, it is, unless you turn your head like a freakin owl, it's everywhere, up, down, the ground, and, like, it's shocking. I just want to be able to put on the eye thing and the ears. It blocks everything else out. And, like, I'm gonna sit in a movie theater and keep my popcorn. And there you go.
You can, you can see your own hands. That's all you can see. Oh, man. Is your own hands. [01:01:00] You're eating popcorn. No, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to give that a go. Well, I can take you to TCU because in our media department, they're working on something that looks like the legionnaire time bubble, right?
Where you can sit. Yes. And it's. It's fully immersed. And it's fully immersed and, and it, it rolls. Yeah. When you. I don't know that I want to do that. Well, I mean, there's safety features because there's liability, but the the We did Steve, the George Lucas, was it Red Wings? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah.
We were jacking around testing with that, fighting in planes. Oh, that's cool. And it, Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, you were, you were, you were very much, you could switch the mode where you could, you know, you see the pilot or you could see the controls, but you see the pilot doing the hand movements. It's like being, it's almost like being on the holodeck.
That's interesting. So that's, that's the feel that you get from, from this thing too, except it's weird because you also get like a pass through. So you can choose to be immersed and there's like a little [01:02:00] dial. So you dial out reality and and you're, you're dialing yourself into this other space. But normally you see everything around you interact just like normally you can play catch if you want, there's no lag.
But you're seeing everything pass through with a camera that's on the outside. And, you just have these screens that are hanging in different places that you've put there. Like, I have my computer screen over here, and I have a giant movie screen over here. And, you just, you just lock these things in place.
I'm going to have to give this a go, because it sounds, it sounds like the kind of thing that normally I would be like, That's terrifying, I don't want to go anywhere near that. But they'd say, No Stephen, come, come, this might. Well, I think the movie thing is, for you, I think the movie thing would be good.
That's how I watch. If I'm going to watch something that I'm really, I, I want to experience the thing. Yeah, I want to, yes. Like, if there's something that I want to like, I'm in. Does that mean I could get that and stab Superman and go, why'd you say Martha? [01:03:00] That would be, that would be. Well, almost. That would be the second version.
The equivalent of going to, like, if I'm watching a movie at home, the, I will watch this way because Angela doesn't like to see action movies. She doesn't like a lot of violence. So we have, there's things that we watch together, things that we watch apart. Right. And anything that we're watching apart, I do it that way.
I just, I, I have peripheral vision with me. I mean, I, I'm, I'm, I get very distracted. So if I'm watching a movie. Yeah. If I'm in the movie theater and somebody pissing around. I, I struggle with cutting that out. You'll love this thing. Because you'll lose a little bit of your breath. The problem is we'll never be able to take you to a real theater again.
That's okay, because the rate I'm going, I'm never gonna go to a real theater again. Because it's just, oh my gosh, it's so flippin tedious. I love the experience of the movies. I do too, so much. I love going to the movies. I love the smell of the popcorn. I like the salty [01:04:00] popcorn with the sweet of my drink.
That combination is my favorite thing. I'll sit, I go to the movies again. Angela doesn't like most of the movies that I really wanna see in theater, so I go by myself a lot. Well, that, yeah, I do that. They, Sunday mornings used to be, yeah. Uh uh a favorite. And then, well, I'm in church on Sunday mornings, so well.
I mean, you, you, but would be a new VR thing. Well, if it could be, I mean, at the same time you're probably out, you're probably outta church by two o'clock. Weird. And once again, you're probably outta church by two o'clock. You could still go. Yeah. I, I, you know, like in the long, long breaks I'd go on Tuesdays because they're, now, they're $6.
It used to be $5 movies all day long. and you could just go and yeah, there's, there are many times where I would get excited about the movies and Sandra and the girls would be like, Oh, you don't want to watch another episode of friends? No, I've, we've seen this 7, 000 times. I want to go see the alien movie.
I know it looks boring because Rachel [01:05:00] Green says her favorite movie is dangerous. So there's a Christmas movie out right now that. I feel like I should not go see by myself because it's definitely supposed to be a family movie. Terrified 3. But it's a little actiony, you know, Red 1. Oh, I've seen it.
It looks so, it looks like so much fun. It is, it is all kinds of popcorn. I mean, really, it should be in the Marvel Universe because you have Pym Technology. You have Santa Claus is web swimming, J. Jonah Jameson as Santa Claus is swinging around. And Chris Evans, if you thought you had fun with his language in Deadpool and Wolverine, Oh my God, him playing a complete jackass is trying to It's on the naughty list?
Yes. It was great, and it, what was fun about it, is it, it examined the myth of the Santa Claus, using the proper names, we get a Krampus, we get all these little legend ties [01:06:00] of other mythical beings. Some of it's not a horribly original idea, but there are some things I was like, I read about this in a book.
Wow, y'all really went and did your research. So it's, it's a good popcorn Christmas. It's not gonna replace, you know, elf or die hard. Die hard, you know? Bless you. Bless you. That's my pile. Bless you. I mean, that's, I've, I've already started my Harry Potters for Christmas, and, but it, it is, you know, like Chris Evans, thank you for.
taking time out of your day to do this. The rocks just being the rock. But it looks so good. The giant polar bear guy. Oh, it was, that was my birthday movie. My sister and I, we'll always pick a movie, take the other one to go see it. And when that came out, I was like, Oh, I've got to, that's got to be, it's after my birthday, but that's that's my, that's my movie.
I think Angela might go see that one with me. We'll see. So you were shaking your head. Did you see the film? No, I just, I'm [01:07:00] like, no, I've got no interest in, in, I just, no. But, talking about movies that, for Christmas, it's being released on Christmas Day, and I'm seriously thinking I'm going to go see it. Robert Eggers Nosferatu.
Oh, man, that looks gorgeous. I don't like to mix Christmas with monsters. Yeah, I mean, I do. It does look good. Well, here's the thing. So, unless I'm mistaken Francis Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. I just couple. Yeah. Or you want me to get up cv? I don't think it was released. I think it was released.
I think it was because, well not on Christmas day, I don't think. I think it was, lemme take a look. Well, I saw it on Christmas Day. Oh yeah, I saw, I saw, I hardly sick. I saw Tight wrote with my dad on Christmas Day, which was like, kind of did, you know, so my daughter's really into like all the horror stuff and she was telling me this story told true.[01:08:00]
I can't remember who, it might have been Locke, but basically Mary Shelley and whoever wrote one of the early one of the early, like, vampire treatments, I don't think, anyway, a bunch a bunch of these stories were written in the same house, on the same weekend, based on a prompt by one of these super famous Lord Byron.
Was it Byron? Yes./
So what's the story? Byron had Percy Bessay, Percy Bessay Shelley was his wife was Mary Wallenstonecraft Shelley. And they were, Lord Byron, It was there. And basically it was like a weekend where they would, it was entertainment, you know?
So they were like, come up with a story, come up with a story. They kind of dared each other to come up with a story and, and everybody came up with [01:09:00] these, like the, it was a writer. It was a prompt. Yeah, it was the writer's prompts. Yeah, that's right. So it was like kind of, I think they all tried, had to go at doing the Scary story or something like that.
And Mary Shelley. Her contribution, in essence, is what becomes Frankenstein or the modern Prometheus. How close am I? You're very close. Okay. It's called, they call it a haunted holiday in Switzerland in 1816. Right. Not that the phone was listening to us, but I typed in the first, Three letters. Right. Of the Lord's wife's name and it, AI took me right to this and they took a they were telling ghost stories, drinking wine, took laudam and laudam and opium, and during the hallucinatory experiences reading ghost stories someone ran out of the room screaming She was awesome, but yeah, so there you go.
No, that's what it was. It was Mary Shelley, Lord Byron, John, John [01:10:00] William Polidori, and he wrote, Vampyr. Okay. He wrote Vampyr during that time, and then she wrote Frankenstein during that time. Right. And there was one other, I can't recall what it was, but, I found that fascinating. Oh yeah.
Like these, these authors just. They all got together and were like, I'll write something good. Well, she wrote she wrote the book, and then she kind of went back and tinkered with it a bit. Because I think, like, I think the Penguin Because when I buy books, when I get books of like, from Barnes Noble or something like that, I always check to see.
If, I can get a Penguin Classics printing of it. Because I really, they do really interesting, essays and forwards and introductions. And you, you know, you can trust that the text is, it's not going to be something that somebody else has edited [01:11:00] or tweaked. Because they think, oh, this would sound better.
You should ask John the, for how you can look at Penguin's catalog, because we, I mean, we have access to all of that. Oh, you will freaking cripple me if you do that. Well, so we order from Penguin directly now, so our discount, everything works the same, like even the shipping, it'll show up in our normal shipment like Marvel does.
So, that yeah, because I'm ordering something for For one of my kids. Right. She wanted a, speaking of video games, an art book from a video game. And I was like, yeah, I bet I can get that. So I'm just going to order it from our distributors. They just put out cause they do really interesting little collections.
I've got a couple of them. And the, the, the, the craft, the art, the covers. So the, the. I love them as a publisher. They, they, you can, you feel the love of literature that [01:12:00] they have. And they've just put out a new series and one of the books, I want to get it, it's um, oh god, it's the, I can't, my mind's gone blank.
It's the novel that Apocalypse Now, the movie Apocalypse Now, is, is, thematically is based on this book. Joseph Conrad wrote it. Why can I not think of the name of this bloody book? I'm helping you out. Please, because that's going to irritate the hell out of me. Anyway, Mike Mignola, the Hellboy, Mike Mignola has done the cover and it's gorgeous.
Hearts of Darkness! That's it. Heart of Darkness. It's just as it came out. Yeah, Heart of Darkness. Heart of Darkness. Oh, man. So, anyway. But, I, yeah, oh, Penguin. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Penguin books. We can, we can definitely, yeah. Okay. So, let's wrap this one up. Let's wrap up Movie Talk. Right. I do want to point out one thing.
To wrap up movie part. Yes. This week, this [01:13:00] week, the James Gunn verse officially started. On HBO Max. Creature Commandos. Creature Commandos, the first two episodes dropped. I haven't watched it yet. Me neither. That'll be a forward, future show. Yeah, I need to watch it. So we'll mark this, because we talked about, are we gonna talk about the Gunverse, you know, three or four years from now, when Jerry Seinfeld is now in charge of the Superman universe.
I'm wearing my, I'm wearing the Gunverse Superman. Yes, we'll wrap this one, we'll wrap this up. I just had to interject that. So So, what have we established here? We've got to watch 1941. 1941. Yep. And what's the other film that we, we need? Scavenger Hunt. Scavenger Hunt, yes. Oh, Scavenger Hunt. There you go.
So good. And Hudson Hawk. Always. Alright. Would you like to swing on a star? Carry moonbeams home in a jar? And be better off than you are? Or would you rather be a Pig. Animal. Whichever one. Yes, [01:14:00] we all sound as good as Danny Aiello did. And then, you know, see that on Spotify, kids. Yeah. Oh man, we have to pay royalties now.
Yeah, I was gonna say, we're gonna have to, Jason's gonna have to edit that. Alright, we'll figure that out./
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